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		<title>By: SKO</title>
		<link>http://ericfaller.com/blog/2009/11/08/kill-a-watt/comment-page-1/#comment-7514</link>
		<dc:creator>SKO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 18:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW... this post has ruined my life... I constantly think of how much wattage everything is using now</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW&#8230; this post has ruined my life&#8230; I constantly think of how much wattage everything is using now</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://ericfaller.com/blog/2009/11/08/kill-a-watt/comment-page-1/#comment-7498</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, my MacBook Pro 17&quot; is using 34 watts when idle (100% brightness) and 65 watts with both CPUs fully loaded.

Interesting that I can tell when my build is finished by looking at the Kill-a-watt. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, my MacBook Pro 17&#8243; is using 34 watts when idle (100% brightness) and 65 watts with both CPUs fully loaded.</p>
<p>Interesting that I can tell when my build is finished by looking at the Kill-a-watt. <img src='http://ericfaller.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huh, I&#039;ve never seen a 240V washer outside of Europe before. Ours is 110V, but our dryer is 240V.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh, I&#8217;ve never seen a 240V washer outside of Europe before. Ours is 110V, but our dryer is 240V.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Faller</title>
		<link>http://ericfaller.com/blog/2009/11/08/kill-a-watt/comment-page-1/#comment-7496</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Faller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just realized that last calculation assumed that you leave them both on 24/7, which will probably not be the case.  If you turn them off at night, that&#039;ll at least double the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just realized that last calculation assumed that you leave them both on 24/7, which will probably not be the case.  If you turn them off at night, that&#8217;ll at least double the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Faller</title>
		<link>http://ericfaller.com/blog/2009/11/08/kill-a-watt/comment-page-1/#comment-7495</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Faller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes the difference surprised me as well. I think there are a couple of explanations of where the difference comes from:
- My laptop screen brightness was at about 75%
- The laptop has an LED-lit screen, which is more efficient
- My desktop monitor is much much larger than the small laptop screen
- The desktop has a lot more RAM (needing power)
- The desktop has CPU, GPU and PSU fans which are always on, but the laptop&#039;s fans only come on every once in a while.

To answer your second question, if we assume a difference of 250 W between a laptop and desktop, then that&#039;s a savings of 2190 kW per year, or $197. So it&#039;d only take a few years to recoup the extra cost (assuming you were OK with the smaller screen of a laptop, etc)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes the difference surprised me as well. I think there are a couple of explanations of where the difference comes from:<br />
- My laptop screen brightness was at about 75%<br />
- The laptop has an LED-lit screen, which is more efficient<br />
- My desktop monitor is much much larger than the small laptop screen<br />
- The desktop has a lot more RAM (needing power)<br />
- The desktop has CPU, GPU and PSU fans which are always on, but the laptop&#8217;s fans only come on every once in a while.</p>
<p>To answer your second question, if we assume a difference of 250 W between a laptop and desktop, then that&#8217;s a savings of 2190 kW per year, or $197. So it&#8217;d only take a few years to recoup the extra cost (assuming you were OK with the smaller screen of a laptop, etc)</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://ericfaller.com/blog/2009/11/08/kill-a-watt/comment-page-1/#comment-7494</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow...Thats quite a difference. Assuming your laptop has a dual core processor, and you used your laptop screen at full brightness, your laptop uses 85% less energy (44W compared to 305W). Which raises an interesting question: how long would it take to recoup the extra cost of a laptop (over a desktop) given the significant energy savings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230;Thats quite a difference. Assuming your laptop has a dual core processor, and you used your laptop screen at full brightness, your laptop uses 85% less energy (44W compared to 305W). Which raises an interesting question: how long would it take to recoup the extra cost of a laptop (over a desktop) given the significant energy savings.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Faller</title>
		<link>http://ericfaller.com/blog/2009/11/08/kill-a-watt/comment-page-1/#comment-7493</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Faller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good questions. I just measured my laptop:
- Asleep: 2 W
- Idle: 25 W
- Heavy load: 44 W

Unfortunately there are a couple of problems with measuring large appliances:
- Big ones like washers use 240V plugs instead of 120V, and thus don&#039;t work with the KillAWatt :(
- Some appliances like refrigerators turn themselves on and off at weird intervals, so it&#039;s difficult to measure their average power consumption unless you leave the device plugged in for a day or more.  When I&#039;m done measuring all my small devices I&#039;ll probably do that with the refrigerator.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good questions. I just measured my laptop:<br />
- Asleep: 2 W<br />
- Idle: 25 W<br />
- Heavy load: 44 W</p>
<p>Unfortunately there are a couple of problems with measuring large appliances:<br />
- Big ones like washers use 240V plugs instead of 120V, and thus don&#8217;t work with the KillAWatt <img src='http://ericfaller.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
- Some appliances like refrigerators turn themselves on and off at weird intervals, so it&#8217;s difficult to measure their average power consumption unless you leave the device plugged in for a day or more.  When I&#8217;m done measuring all my small devices I&#8217;ll probably do that with the refrigerator.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://ericfaller.com/blog/2009/11/08/kill-a-watt/comment-page-1/#comment-7492</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool gizmo....I&#039;d be interested in seeing what the difference in power consumption between a laptop (with battery removed) and a desktop computer is while attempting the same tasks. Tried connecting to any large appliances yet? - Your speakers cost $6.25/year, but what about your fridge, or washer...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool gizmo&#8230;.I&#8217;d be interested in seeing what the difference in power consumption between a laptop (with battery removed) and a desktop computer is while attempting the same tasks. Tried connecting to any large appliances yet? &#8211; Your speakers cost $6.25/year, but what about your fridge, or washer&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://ericfaller.com/blog/2009/11/08/kill-a-watt/comment-page-1/#comment-7491</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve had one of these for a while too and I&#039;m still trying to find time to do an analysis of old devices vs new, i.e. computers, light bulbs, appliances, TVs, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had one of these for a while too and I&#8217;m still trying to find time to do an analysis of old devices vs new, i.e. computers, light bulbs, appliances, TVs, etc.</p>
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